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Boy Offline Posts: 22 Hi My ex BF Has a long history of short just intense relationships. I ve already read the article: 'how a borderline human relationship evolves' and it gave me more insight in BDP s relationships. But i was wondering if anyone knows more than most the devaluation 'stage', when does information technology start, how practice you lot recognize that, do they become suspicious to their loved i, practise they go aggressive, do they need more attention from their friends and so in the commencement phase of the relationship? Etc What I noticed was, that, after 1- 2months, he (the BDP) suddenly needed more attention from others, friends, relatives and even new people (strangers), the attending from their loved i is not enough anymore at that stage. Is devaluation a kind of, a dream that's falling to pieces? Is this right? Feel free to mail your story and thoughts Kind regards Logged

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Bitzee Devaluation is when they suddenly behave equally if they don't value you lot anymore.  They become inexplicably cool toward you for no discernible rhyme or reason.  And they seem to have no retentiveness of how much they adored you yesterday. They may be doing this as a reaction to feeling abandoned.  And they may feel abased at the *slightest* sign of rejection from someone.  It may be something as inconsequential every bit you showing up x minutes late for a date.  Or they might imagine you were paying attending to someone else in a sexual way, etc.  Many things can trigger their fear of abandonment. They also typically cheapen their partners at times when a relationship is condign specially close or is about to move to a new level... .this also triggers their fear of abandonment.  Things accept become too shut, they become frightened, and they push the partner abroad.  Often, this response is an automatic reaction, more of a reflex, and not something to which they give much conscious thought.  And they truly tin can forget how much they cared about you yesterday... .they live very much in the moment... .and their mood of the moment is all encompassing, they tin forget everything else. Devaluation is usually a part of a cycle of Idealization and Devaluation.  They go back and forth between these 2 extremes of feeling for their partner.  This is the push/pull dynamic of BPD.  They devalue and push the partner away until there is too much altitude... .at which point, they will brainstorm again to idealize the partner and try to pull them dorsum in. Logged

JoannaK DSA Recipient Retired Staff Offline Gender: What is your sexual orientation: Directly Relationship condition: Married to long-term 9-year partner (also a non) Posts: 22834 In my opinion, the devaluation starts when they realize that you can't go on all of their demons at bay after all.  When a person with BPD embarks on a new relationship, they count on that human relationship to fill all of the emptiness, all of the misery that is inside of them.  When it doesn't work (equally nobody can fill the internal emptiness of some other person), the devaluation begins.  I'm not saying that this explains all of the devaluation for everybody with BPD, just I recollect it is a very strong element. Logged

Skip Site Managing director Offline Gender: What is your sexual orientation: Straight Who in your life has "personality" bug: Ex-romantic partner Posts: 8533 Is devaluation a kind of a dream that's falling to pieces? I suspect that is what drives it. When a person affected with BPD falls in love, they see you very much the manner the act, as a super wonderful human.  You are their soulmate.  This relationship will fill their life and will finally make them feel loved and whole. Depending how wonderful Mr. Wonderful is (that is how I was described) and how stressful their life is - probably determines how long it takes. I recall devaluation ofttimes takes place in waves - in the beginning they run into you lot every bit wonderful 100% of the time, then 80%, and so 60% - you get the idea. We tend to feed these cycles.  When they start start to cheapen united states of america, we endeavor harder... .and it works for a piffling while. There is a very confusing period when your partner starts feeling their dreams slip away as you are reaching new levels in your love and attraction to them... . Just some thoughts... .curious to see what others say. Skippy Logged

StrongThanILook Offline Posts: 35 They too typically cheapen their partners at times when a relationship is becoming especially shut or is nearly to move to a new level... .this also triggers their fearfulness of abandonment.  Things have become also close, they become frightened, and they push button the partner away. This is i of the truest statements nearly my relationship with my BPDso.The truth behind this lies in that BPD'due south (in my experience) practise non push away those who are non shut to them.  Why?  Well... duh, they aren't shut and there is no need to push button away.  Fear.  They don't fear abandonment from people that they truly don't care most.  If you weren't getting shut, this wouldn't even be an issue.  Eventually, I learned to expect at this every bit a expert sign! It's one of the few times you can say "He does it (whatever horrible affair the BPD has done) because he loves me." and potentially be right about it.  Within reason of course.  I'm not trying to be delusional, just trying to put a positive spin on it. Incidentally, I when this happened to me, I was unaware of BPD itself simply had an idea of why he was pushing away.  When I reacted with love to all his  horrid emotional/exact attacks and all his attempts to distance me failed to make me bolt on him, he went REALLY haywire and became very confused.  No one ever did that before.  I went through a zillion defense force mechanisms and moved several levels closer the whole time he was diggings me and I really had no thought what was going on.  He's in therapy now and things are going so much meliorate .  Good affair, simply it was a total accident. Logged

clvrnn Offline Gender: What is your sexual orientation: Gay, lesb Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner Human relationship status: Cleaved Upwards Posts: 501 Would it so be authentic to say that the more a person with BPD cares nearly/loves you, the harder the 'divide', the further they volition push you abroad? Logged

in one case removed Lath Ambassador Online Gender: What is your sexual orientation: Straight Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner Posts: 12178 Would it then be accurate to say that the more a person with BPD cares virtually/loves you, the harder the 'separate', the further they will push you lot away? ' i think that in a lot of ways, this is true for all of u.s.a., and certainly for someone with BPD traits. an intimate relationship is a vulnerable i. when we are vulnerable, our fears (rejection, abandonment, engulfment) and sensitivities are heightened. more is at stake. think about it. if i chosen you names, im just some stranger; it wouldnt feel good, but deep downwards, you dont care what i call back. if a loved 1 calls y'all names, its personal. i call up mostly speaking its the aforementioned for pwBPD, just more extreme. Logged and I recollect it'south gonna be all right; aye; the worst is over now; the mornin' sun is shinin' like a red prophylactic ball…

ColdKnight Offline Gender: What is your sexual orientation: Straight Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner Posts: 294 Exercise we really believe this (the more they push u.s.a. away the more they care about u.s.a.) or are we just maxim this to make ourselves feel better. It makes me feel better but I don't know if i believe it I miss her.. Logged Take it for what information technology'due south worth, I am no one of consequence.

Resiliant Offline Gender: What is your sexual orientation: Straight Who in your life has "personality" bug: Child Human relationship status: Married. With developed child relationship tin exist described as loving. Cloudy with sunny breaks. Loftier current of air warning. Risk of thunderstorms simply much less astringent than previous. Long term forecast shows promise of sunnier days alee Posts: 180 I am VERY familiar with the bicycle of Idealization and Devaluation. I am now getting it from my uBPDs30, but I used to get it from his father, my uBPDex. My ex would go through the cycle within a single paragraph! Interestingly enough, looking back at it I realize that information technology always started with idealization, then moved to devaluation.   It never went the other style... Before I knew almost BPD and these terms, I used to say to myself "he puts me on a pedestal, keeps talking for a scrap and so completely tears me back down so downward some more". To me it was like the idealization was to make me want more idealization, to work for it and to want to exist the best I could be for him so that I might go on getting more of these wonderful compliments.    When the devaluation started information technology was as if he was hoping for the reverse reaction, that I wouldn't desire those things said and I would get back to wanting all of the positive comments and try harder to be the best pleasing wife possible. Nosotros did both come from backgrounds where the human was the "boss" and the wife was somewhat subservient.   Things went downhill when I became more than recognized in our business, and started having my ain friends my age (he was 23 years older than me).  He felt like he was losing command. My ex would idealize me not simply in individual simply also to our friends or business organization associates - later when he began the cycle of both idealization and devaluation information technology would also be both in private and in public circles. Unfortunately for him it didn't work, but I take zilch hard feelings towards him.  I feel sorry for anyone struggling with BPD. I feel especially deplorable for my son who has had to endure the same cycles of idealization and devaluation from his father while suffering from various mental disorders himself.  How heartbreaking. Logged "Life is 10% what happens to you lot and 90% how y'all react to it." ― Charles R. Swindoll

Resiliant Offline Gender: What is your sexual orientation: Directly Who in your life has "personality" issues: Child Relationship status: Married. With adult child human relationship tin be described as loving. Cloudy with sunny breaks. Loftier wind warning. Take a chance of thunderstorms simply much less severe than previous. Long term forecast shows promise of sunnier days ahead Posts: 180 I as well experience similar the devaluation comes from desperation.  A desperate attempt to get back what they had.  I experience like information technology would be hard for anyone in a state of agony to make good judgments. When my son does information technology to me, I try not to permit information technology bother me because I have empathy for where information technology comes from. Logged "Life is 10% what happens to you lot and 90% how yous react to information technology." ― Charles R. Swindoll

bgg2745 Offline What is your sexual orientation: Direct Posts: 7 What is sorry is that any logical conception of contemplating their futurity seems to be not priority to their emotional turmoil, perhaps their problem is too painful to mitigate, like committing to lesser of 2 evils decision. As a result they movement from place to place and job to job or lover to lover. The only thing they can promise for is that they accept this reality willingly fifty-fifty if it has an unfulfilling or lonely stop. This phenomenon is also applicable to non BPD people of our club every bit we run into the largest group of unmarried people in our history move into their senior years alone. This being the fashion, makes it easier for them to enjoy the ride since they are non lone, at least in the world of fashion or trends. Logged

jaysea22 Offline What is your sexual orientation: Gay, lesb Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner Posts: 16 Is this a never ending bicycle of idealization/devaluation.  Or once the devaluation starts there is no more than idealization.  Basically I mean once they see you as "bad" do they ever see y'all as "practiced" once again? Logged

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